1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,500 On this edition of Sightings, 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,700 there is an entity in this room right now. 3 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:08,600 A dangerous spirit is forcing these people from their home. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Identify yourself. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,000 You hear that? 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,000 It sounds almost like a moon. 7 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Yeah, it's a monique. 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,400 The Heartland Ghost strikes again. 9 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,000 Something is burning my face. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Then, was Hollywood's greatest genius cursed? 11 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,400 A long steel needle been driven entirely through the script. 12 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,300 This was the mark of the voodoo. 13 00:00:27,300 --> 00:00:31,300 Also, a frightening tale of alien abduction from the Australian outback. 14 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:34,300 I jumped on the roof of my car and took us up near. 15 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:38,300 Plus, some scientists believe the Earth wants us to change our ways. 16 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:41,300 The ecosystem fights back and it attacks the people. 17 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:45,300 And newly discovered lights in space may offer an explanation to Earth mysteries. 18 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:50,300 There are forces in the Earth that are equivalent to those things in the sky. 19 00:00:57,300 --> 00:01:21,300 Music 20 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:24,300 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 21 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:27,300 Sightings continues to investigate the Heartland Ghost, 22 00:01:27,300 --> 00:01:32,300 the most compelling haunting case our investigative team has ever encountered. 23 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:38,300 The family has now moved out of the house where they believe a vindictive entity named Sally lives. 24 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:43,300 Before they moved out, they called in a Native American shaman to exercise the spirit. 25 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:47,300 Then, our team returned to the now-empty house with psychic Peter James 26 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:50,300 to see if Sally was really gone. 27 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:57,300 From the outside, little has changed since Peter James first visited this remarkable house last summer. 28 00:01:57,300 --> 00:02:02,300 In fact, the house stands today much as it has since it was built in 1872. 29 00:02:02,300 --> 00:02:05,300 But this time, the upstairs window was empty. 30 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:10,300 No one peered out on the quiet street in this quiet town in America's Heartland. 31 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:16,300 Sally, the child entity from the past that Peter believes is trapped in the present, seemed to be gone. 32 00:02:16,300 --> 00:02:19,300 Music 33 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:27,300 And the family, Pam, Jeff and Donnie, who tried to live with the haunting power in this house, have moved out. 34 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:29,300 Music 35 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:34,300 As chronicled in past episodes of Sightings, the ghostly activity began for them 36 00:02:34,300 --> 00:02:38,300 when family photographs revealed strange, unexplained images. 37 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:39,300 Music 38 00:02:39,300 --> 00:02:43,300 This was the room that there were a lot of photographs taken. 39 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:47,300 One was when I was sitting down here, and then two entities showed up. 40 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:54,300 One bounce in this area here, and then one somewhere in this area here. 41 00:02:54,300 --> 00:02:58,300 After those photographs were taken, the haunting seemed to move upstairs, 42 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:03,300 where the family began to feel an unnatural force at work in their son's nursery. 43 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:06,300 This room spooked me beyond spooking. 44 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:10,300 This is where a lot of her activity happened. 45 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:14,300 She's taken toys from that part of the room, thrown them out here to the middle floor. 46 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:19,300 She's moved furniture around. 47 00:03:19,300 --> 00:03:24,300 After a few months, the paranormal activity took a more destructive turn. 48 00:03:24,300 --> 00:03:32,300 While you guys were outside, doing an interview outside of something we've discovered in here, 49 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:37,300 it just looks like it's burned, and the rest of the pedal is moist still. 50 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:40,300 It's still half alive. 51 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:44,300 But the outside, I mean, it's ashes. 52 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:48,300 And finally, there was the moment before our sightings cameras, 53 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:52,300 when something, or someone, viciously attacked Jeff. 54 00:03:52,300 --> 00:03:55,300 She's right here with me right now. 55 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:58,300 I'm feeling something. 56 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:01,300 Really cold, shoot around my stomach. 57 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:09,300 These scratches had appeared just moments before. 58 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:15,300 He's just went right through my midsection. 59 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:22,300 Oh my God, look. Look. 60 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:25,300 Oh look, they're forming. It's forming right there. 61 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:30,300 She tends to do this to me because I upset her sometimes. 62 00:04:30,300 --> 00:04:34,300 She wants to be noticed, I think, today. 63 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:40,300 On Peter James' first visit to the home, 64 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:44,300 his psychic impressions centered on the link between a child entity 65 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:49,300 and a former resident of the home, who had lived here at the turn of the century. 66 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:52,300 I feel very medical about this for some reason. 67 00:04:52,300 --> 00:05:01,300 I'm a medical person that had a strange lifestyle. 68 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:04,300 Peter's accuracy was remarkable. 69 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:08,300 When our sightings investigative team researched town records from 1900, 70 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:13,300 the city directories showed that the house was occupied at that time by a doctor, 71 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:16,300 a doctor with a lifestyle that eventually led to his arrest 72 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:19,300 and removal from office as the town's mayor. 73 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:22,300 And Peter believes that while the spirit of Sally, 74 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:26,300 a child entity haunts the house, her physical body is here, 75 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:28,300 beneath a weather-worn tombstone, 76 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:34,300 and that she was a child the dishonored doctor could not or would not save. 77 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:39,300 Because much of the haunting activity has been reported at night, 78 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:44,300 we conducted this latest phase of our investigation with the aid of night vision lenses. 79 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,300 Okay, we're good. 80 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:51,300 After so many months, it was the first time our team had been alone in the house 81 00:05:51,300 --> 00:05:53,300 with the lights out. 82 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:56,300 I want to go in this room first. 83 00:05:59,300 --> 00:06:01,300 And... 84 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:08,300 A second camera shows what you'd see without the aid of the night vision technology. 85 00:06:08,300 --> 00:06:14,300 Our nighttime is their daytime. 86 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:19,300 There's someone, there's someone, there's an entity in this room right now. 87 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,300 No doubt in my mind. 88 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:29,300 Give us a better verification that you're here, whoever you are, identify yourself. 89 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:34,300 What do you hear? 90 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:35,300 You hear it? 91 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:37,300 Tell me what you hear. 92 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:39,300 It sounds almost like a moan. 93 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:41,300 It's a moaning. 94 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:43,300 You hear it, Tony? 95 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:45,300 Yeah. 96 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:47,300 I hear it. 97 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:50,300 It sounds like it's coming from right behind. 98 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:52,300 Is this where you are, Sally? Right here? 99 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,300 Yes. Whoa, yes. 100 00:06:54,300 --> 00:06:56,300 Feel this. Feel this right here. 101 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:00,300 Or is that from the heater? No. 102 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:02,300 No, it's right here. Right here. 103 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:04,300 Feel it? Feel it? 104 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:05,300 Yes. 105 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:06,300 Yeah, right here. Look. Whoa. 106 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:08,300 Hello. Yeah, right there. 107 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:10,300 There we go. Hello. Yeah, that's it. 108 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:11,300 She's here. 109 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:12,300 Hi, Sally. 110 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:14,300 There she is. Hi, Sally. 111 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:15,300 Whoa, feel that. 112 00:07:15,300 --> 00:07:17,300 Whoo. 113 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:18,300 Yeah, right here. 114 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:19,300 That's very strong. Right there. 115 00:07:19,300 --> 00:07:20,300 Right here. Yeah, right here it is. 116 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:22,300 Here it is. Oh my God. 117 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:24,300 Yeah, Sally. Hello. 118 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:25,300 Feel it? Yes. 119 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:26,300 Yeah. 120 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:29,300 Whoa, hello. Easy. 121 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:31,300 You still feel it? 122 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:34,300 Yeah, a lot. A lot. Yeah. 123 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:36,300 Come and hold my hand, Sally. 124 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:38,300 Sally. 125 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:41,300 It feels the eerie force leading him down the hallway 126 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:43,300 into the former nursery, 127 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:46,300 where Sally's presence has always been felt most intensely. 128 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:48,300 Sally? 129 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:52,300 Would you like to play with me in the teddy bear, Sally? 130 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:54,300 Mmm. 131 00:07:58,300 --> 00:07:59,300 You all right? 132 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:01,300 Yeah, I'm fine. Just burning. 133 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:02,300 Is this unusual people? 134 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:05,300 Yeah, she's, oh, that really burns. 135 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:07,300 Sally has supposedly burned before, 136 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:11,300 arose, a bib, but never a person. 137 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:15,300 Something is burning my face like right now. 138 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:20,300 Peter James was visibly shaken by the painful encounter. 139 00:08:20,300 --> 00:08:22,300 Wow. 140 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:24,300 Sally, you'd be nice. 141 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:26,300 The team broke for the night, 142 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:29,300 but returned the next morning to find an anxious former resident 143 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:32,300 with an amazing story. 144 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:34,300 I started watching the show and I just, I couldn't believe it. 145 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:36,300 There was no doubt that it was my house, you know, 146 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:38,300 and I'd spent years here. 147 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:39,300 And they showed the bookcase, 148 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:42,300 and my grandmother had all of her medical books here. 149 00:08:42,300 --> 00:08:45,300 This room, which is the nursery, 150 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:47,300 was actually my two youngest brothers. 151 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:50,300 And as I passed through the hall and going by here, 152 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:52,300 a light caught my eye. 153 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:54,300 So I turned and I looked in here. 154 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:57,300 It was right here where the fire happened. 155 00:08:57,300 --> 00:09:00,300 And as you can see, there's no electrical outlet or anything. 156 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:03,300 It just, it seemed like it was only concentrated. 157 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:05,300 It was only concentrated right here. 158 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:08,300 In my memory of it has always been, you know, 159 00:09:08,300 --> 00:09:10,300 why did that fire start and how? 160 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,300 And so, you know, going back and talking to all my brothers 161 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:14,300 after seeing that first show, 162 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:16,300 every single one of them had, 163 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,300 well, what about that fire in Kevin Dillon's room? 164 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:21,300 And, you know, I said, that's what I thought of too. 165 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:25,300 And especially when they said that this is the room 166 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:27,300 that they've had the concentration of Sally being in. 167 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,300 And I thought, you know, if she was there, 168 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:31,300 when we were there, you know, 169 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,300 I kind of had that feeling like, 170 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:36,300 were you being watched all those years? 171 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:38,300 As if to confirm her suspicion 172 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:40,300 that the family had been watched, 173 00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:43,300 an eerie cold spot suddenly formed. 174 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:45,300 Oh my gosh, yeah, that's weird. 175 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:47,300 Yeah, it's cold. 176 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:49,300 It's colder than anywhere else. 177 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:50,300 It is cold. 178 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:53,300 What does it feel like to you? 179 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:56,300 It's like a breeze blowing. 180 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:58,300 It's very cool. 181 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:01,300 But there's no, all the windows are shut. 182 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:02,300 Yeah, the windows are shut. 183 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:04,300 The heat is off. 184 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:06,300 And I feel like I'm really hot, 185 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:08,300 so this does feel really cold here. 186 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:11,300 Well, just a little bit of Sally. 187 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:13,300 God dang it, it's so weird. 188 00:10:13,300 --> 00:10:15,300 Despite the family's attempt to exercise the spirit, 189 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,300 Peter James feels she is still here. 190 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:20,300 How can we deny the fact that she's here, 191 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:24,300 and this clearly says you better reconsider 192 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:27,300 your thinking patterns about ghostly activity 193 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,300 because there are two entities here 194 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:34,300 and will remain here in spite of his attempted exorcism. 195 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,300 In fact, as you will see later in this program, 196 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,300 Sally's supposedly vindictive nature 197 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:42,300 was once again painfully obvious, 198 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:47,300 as our investigation broadened in the days that followed. 199 00:10:47,300 --> 00:10:51,300 Peter James believes that Sally is still present in the house. 200 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:53,300 And there was other evidence as well. 201 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:55,300 When the former tenants, Jeff and Pam, 202 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:57,300 returned to the house for a surprise visit, 203 00:10:57,300 --> 00:11:00,300 something sinister returned with them. 204 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,300 And through a live computer hookup 205 00:11:02,300 --> 00:11:04,300 with hundreds of sightings viewers, 206 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:06,300 many of you were able to be there 207 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:09,300 at the very moment of contact. 208 00:11:09,300 --> 00:11:11,300 Later on sightings, we go online 209 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:13,300 with our Heartland investigation. 210 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:14,300 So you physically felt that? 211 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:15,300 Yeah, that hurt. 212 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:17,300 And was Hollywood's greatest genius 213 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,300 the victim of a mysterious curse? 214 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:25,300 Hollywood has made hundreds of movies 215 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:28,300 about the evil power of curses. 216 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,300 There's the curse of the mummy, 217 00:11:30,300 --> 00:11:32,300 the curse of the cat people, 218 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:36,300 and of course who can forget the curse of the swamp creature. 219 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:38,300 They make the subject laughable. 220 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:41,300 But there is one real-life Hollywood curse 221 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:43,300 that is deadly serious. 222 00:11:43,300 --> 00:11:44,300 It may have been the reason 223 00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,300 why one of the big screen's brightest lights 224 00:11:46,300 --> 00:11:49,300 burned out before his time. 225 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,300 This is a voodoo witch doctor. 226 00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:55,300 I ran into him in Brazil, Enrio Janeiro. 227 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:58,300 We were down there making a documentary film. 228 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:00,300 And so I arranged with a good deal of difficulty 229 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:03,300 to film a voodoo ceremony. 230 00:12:03,300 --> 00:12:07,300 Everything that Orson Welles did before 1942 231 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:09,300 worked like a charm. 232 00:12:09,300 --> 00:12:11,300 And it was my unhappy lot to have to tell him 233 00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:13,300 that the filming was off 234 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:16,300 because I had just received word from Hollywood 235 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:21,300 that the president of the film studio had been removed. 236 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:23,300 It was his downfall. 237 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:27,300 Once he left Hollywood and went to Brazil. 238 00:12:27,300 --> 00:12:30,300 There was no more money to spend on voodoo ceremonies. 239 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:36,300 And the witch doctor assured me that this was deeply offensive. 240 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:39,300 He never got another job in pictures 241 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:43,300 anywhere remotely like the kind of opportunity he'd had. 242 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:49,300 On my desk, in a script of the film, 243 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:53,300 was a long steel needle. 244 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:57,300 It had been driven entirely through the script. 245 00:12:57,300 --> 00:13:03,300 And to the needle was attached a length of red wool. 246 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:06,300 This was the mark of the voodoo. 247 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:11,300 It was 1942 and Orson Welles was the undisputed king of Hollywood. 248 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:15,300 Citizen Kane, still considered the greatest film ever made, 249 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:17,300 had been released a year earlier. 250 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:19,300 And Welles was still receiving accolades 251 00:13:19,300 --> 00:13:21,300 for his historic War of the Worlds broadcast. 252 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:25,300 But suddenly the voodoo curse seemed to change everything. 253 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:28,300 I know that Orson always felt that he had been cursed 254 00:13:28,300 --> 00:13:32,300 with the whole Brazil enterprise. 255 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:35,300 Director Peter Bogdanovich was Welles' friend 256 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:39,300 and worked with him on his memoir, This Is Orson Welles. 257 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:41,300 In it, Welles chronicled his ill-fated attempt 258 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:43,300 to make a documentary about South America, 259 00:13:43,300 --> 00:13:45,300 titled It's All True. 260 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:50,300 Orson had a strong belief in superstition, in witchcraft, 261 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:53,300 in black magic and white magic. 262 00:13:53,300 --> 00:13:56,300 And I think he took it quite literally. 263 00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:58,300 I think he felt that the picture was cursed 264 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:01,300 and that he was suffering from that curse. 265 00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:04,300 I think it pursued him to the end of his days. 266 00:14:04,300 --> 00:14:07,300 Curses are real. Curses are made every day, 267 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:11,300 every moment of every day, by people, towards other people. 268 00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:14,300 And they have the effects. 269 00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:18,300 Curses can kill people. Curses can make people sick. 270 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:20,300 Curses can ruin people's finances. 271 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:23,300 Curses can certainly ruin people's love lives. 272 00:14:23,300 --> 00:14:25,300 How do the curses work? 273 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:28,300 There is no can to answer to that question. 274 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:38,300 Rudy Chavez has an intimate knowledge of the power of curses. 275 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:42,300 He runs the Crystal Cauldron in Oceanside, California, 276 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:44,300 a metaphysical resource center where many people come 277 00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:47,300 in search of a release from their curses. 278 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:53,300 Curses are done in many ways, any way conceivable. 279 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,300 The mind is limitless. 280 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:59,300 So a curse is merely just negative energy. 281 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:01,300 How you choose to use it and manipulate it 282 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:03,300 is entirely up to each individual. 283 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:06,300 Certainly if you believe you're cursed, you're cursed. 284 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:11,300 If you believe you're cursed, you've already set yourself up 285 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:14,300 to have a bad result. 286 00:15:14,300 --> 00:15:17,300 What I would tell someone who believes they are truly cursed 287 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:20,300 and if in fact they are cursed is for them not to be afraid 288 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:23,300 to empower themselves, to gather, to muster up all the strength 289 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:26,300 and courage that they can and to stand strong and firm. 290 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:30,300 That is the first step to overcoming a curse. 291 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,300 Chavez calls his technique for removing the negative energy 292 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,300 of a curse, a spiritual cleansing. 293 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:39,300 We would anoint the pulse points with a spiritual oil 294 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:41,300 or a cleansing oil. 295 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:45,300 We would light incense in which we would burn herbs such as sage. 296 00:15:45,300 --> 00:15:48,300 Sage has been used for cleansing and healing. 297 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:52,300 And we would invoke the blessings of God. 298 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:54,300 And in our tradition it's God, goddess, 299 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,300 because you have feminine and masculine energies. 300 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:01,300 Without one you cannot have the other and life cannot be sustained. 301 00:16:01,300 --> 00:16:05,300 Lina de Souza is a spiritual priestess 302 00:16:05,300 --> 00:16:09,300 who believes she acquired her healing gift as a young girl in Brazil. 303 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:17,300 Brazil has a lot of power, spiritual power. 304 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:19,300 A lot of spiritual power. 305 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:23,300 You feel it when you arrive in. 306 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:26,300 You feel it. It's very strong. 307 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:30,300 Producer Bill Crone first met Lina after finding the original footage 308 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:33,300 from its all-true in this film vault. 309 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:36,300 It had remained untouched for nearly 40 years. 310 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:39,300 I wanted Lina to remove the curse from the film 311 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:42,300 so that we could go ahead, raise the money, 312 00:16:42,300 --> 00:16:45,300 make a deal with Paramount and get the thing finished. 313 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:48,300 Orson wanted to finish this picture. 314 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:51,300 He did not want to walk away from it. 315 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:53,300 His heart was into it and he wanted to finish it. 316 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:57,300 Cinematographer Gary Graver worked with Orson Wells for 15 years, 317 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:00,300 up until Wells' death in 1985. 318 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:04,300 He tried many times to finish it unsuccessfully. 319 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:07,300 He thought a lot of footage was missing 320 00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:10,300 and he didn't want to spend the time on it 321 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:13,300 because he thought it was a curse on it. 322 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:15,300 When I saw Lina for the first time, 323 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:19,300 we sat down and she threw a bunch of seashells on the table 324 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:22,300 and looked into them to see what had been done. 325 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:27,300 She said, whoever did this did a good job. 326 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:31,300 But I think we can turn it around. 327 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:35,300 Then when I threw the shells, I read what the shell did 328 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,300 and then I gave him the answer. 329 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:41,300 And the guide says it could be removed. 330 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:44,300 It was not easy to do it, but it could be done. 331 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:46,300 With the help of her spiritual guides, 332 00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:49,300 Lina claimed she had lifted the curse. 333 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:53,300 Bill Crone resurrected the Wells footage and completed the film. 334 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:57,300 It's All True was released without incident in 1993, 335 00:17:57,300 --> 00:17:59,300 more than 50 years after it was shot. 336 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:02,300 I don't have any theories about curses. 337 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:05,300 I don't know where they come from and I don't know where they go. 338 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:08,300 But I think I was involved with one for 11 years 339 00:18:08,300 --> 00:18:15,300 and I'm glad that I went to someone who knew more than I do about curses 340 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:20,300 because I think if I hadn't, it's all true would never have been finished. 341 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:24,300 If you're worried that someone might put a curse on you, 342 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:27,300 remember that most curses work on the premise 343 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:30,300 that you can trick the mind into harming the body. 344 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:35,300 The power of a curse is as strong as your willingness to believe in it. 345 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:38,300 Next, newly discovered lights in space 346 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:40,300 may explain baffling earth mysteries. 347 00:18:40,300 --> 00:18:44,300 It's documentation of a natural energetic... 348 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:51,300 Contrary to popular belief, 349 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:54,300 ufologists are not dedicated to proving that 350 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,300 every sighting is an alien spacecraft 351 00:18:56,300 --> 00:19:00,300 held bent on delivering an extraterrestrial ultimatum. 352 00:19:00,300 --> 00:19:02,300 In fact, the lion's share of their work involves 353 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:07,300 searching for a scientific explanation for anomalous lights in the sky. 354 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:12,300 Recently, a new natural phenomenon has been videotaped for the first time. 355 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:17,300 The tape offers a scientific explanation for some UFO sightings. 356 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:20,300 There have always been lights in the sky, 357 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:23,300 a celestial painting we can't always explain. 358 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:25,300 As technology reaches farther into space, 359 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:27,300 science is finding answers, 360 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,300 but also new phenomena high above the earth. 361 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:32,300 All around the world, 362 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:37,300 there are extraordinary energetic phenomenon 363 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,300 that people have reported off and on throughout the years 364 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:43,300 in the scientific literature. 365 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:46,300 Everyone has seen these extraordinary forces at work 366 00:19:46,300 --> 00:19:50,300 when they ripped through the atmosphere and crushed earth. 367 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:54,300 And now spectacular new pictures reveal definitive proof 368 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:56,300 that enormous blasts of colored light, 369 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:59,300 which once existed only in the imagination of science, 370 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:02,300 are in fact real. 371 00:20:02,300 --> 00:20:06,300 It's documentation of a natural energetic phenomenon. 372 00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:09,300 We haven't looked at this enough. 373 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:12,300 The blue fans of light are called jets. 374 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:15,300 The red bursting cones are sprites. 375 00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:18,300 Blue jets and red sprites emanate from the top of thunderclouds 376 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,300 and are 20 to 60 miles high. 377 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:23,300 They are seen here in slow motion 378 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:27,300 because sprites and jets last only a few thousands of a second. 379 00:20:27,300 --> 00:20:31,300 Hopefully what it will do is encourage NASA to start using 380 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:35,300 remote sensing technologies to map out not only sprites and jets, 381 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:40,300 but more subtle forms of energy that exist all around the earth. 382 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:44,300 There's nothing subtle about sprites and jets, 383 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:50,300 but their discovery may be a road map to more elusive, mystical phenomena. 384 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:55,300 Below the years that we've been investigating ancient sacred places, 385 00:20:55,300 --> 00:21:00,300 we've heard of accounts of people seeing curious lights 386 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:03,300 and folklore and tradition speaks of curious light forms. 387 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:07,300 They seem to haunt the sort of places that the ancient megalith builders 388 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:11,300 and monument builders are selected for their sites. 389 00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:13,300 I call them earth lights. 390 00:21:13,300 --> 00:21:19,300 And we see these curious lights have been seen by all traditional peoples. 391 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:24,300 In Australia, for example, the Aborigines call them Minmin lights. 392 00:21:24,300 --> 00:21:29,300 In the Native American Indians, many different Native American peoples 393 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,300 have different traditions about these light phenomena. 394 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:37,300 Sightings of magical earth lights infuse Native American myth and legend, 395 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:41,300 and sacred places were set aside for their worship and observation. 396 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:46,300 Unusual, sometimes visible, energetic discharge phenomenon, 397 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:50,300 like the Marfa lights down in the southwest. 398 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:54,300 In China, there are mountains with balls of light 399 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:57,300 that supposedly dance around the tops of them. 400 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:00,300 There are the Andes lights that are these glowing spires 401 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,300 that shoot up into the air above the Andes mountains. 402 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:07,300 Pilots have reported seeing glowing columns of light for years, 403 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:12,300 but their observations remain anecdotal until these pictures were taken. 404 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:19,300 In the earth, there are enormous teleoluric currents in the ground. 405 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:22,300 There are probably equivalents to the sprites and jets. 406 00:22:22,300 --> 00:22:24,300 We just don't see them. 407 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:28,300 When lightning strikes, the heavens and the earth are connected, 408 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:35,300 and there are forces in the earth that are equivalent to those things in the sky. 409 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:40,300 Geophysicists have suspected the existence of red sprites and blue jets for many years, 410 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,300 but it wasn't until technology caught up with imagination 411 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:47,300 that the phenomena were finally documented on videotape. 412 00:22:47,300 --> 00:22:54,300 The same may prove true for paranormal phenomena that we suspect but cannot document yet. 413 00:22:54,300 --> 00:23:00,300 Up next, uncontrollable new diseases may be a sign that the earth has had enough. 414 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:04,300 We are the problem. You have, in effect, Gaia's revenge. 415 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:09,300 Then, alien abduction in the land down under, and America goes online with a ghost. 416 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:18,300 In 1979, scientist James Lobleck wrote a controversial book called Gaia, 417 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:21,300 A New Look at Life on Earth. 418 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:26,300 In it, he described the earth as a living organism that, like the life teeming within it, 419 00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:29,300 was capable of sickness and healing. 420 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:34,300 Today, in an era of global warming, deforestation and overpopulation, 421 00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:37,300 many scientists have come to embrace Lobleck's theory, 422 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:42,300 and they have a warning. The earth will heal itself by killing us. 423 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:51,300 Gaia is the Greek word for earth, and the earth, according to many scientists, is not well. 424 00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:56,300 Gaia is striking back, they say, at the source of her problem, the human race. 425 00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:02,300 Gaia's revenge will be swift and deadly, unwittingly set in motion by us, the instruments of destruction. 426 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:09,300 With the destruction of rainforest around the world, rare viruses have been released in populated areas. 427 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:16,300 Viruses with names like Ebola and Marburg can kill a healthy person in less than 48 hours. 428 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:21,300 The viral outbreaks are just beginning, but Gaia theory says we are running out of time. 429 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:26,300 I find the theory of Gaia, where the earth is seen as a living organism, 430 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:33,300 reacting to responses from the outside and stimuli, such as deforestation, totally credible. 431 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:40,300 For more than 20 years, naturalist Arnold Newman has led expeditions deep into the tropical rainforests of South America. 432 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:44,300 He has seen firsthand what deforestation is doing to our planet. 433 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:49,300 We're losing one football field per second in the tropical rainforests. 434 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:52,300 That's 100 acres per minute. 435 00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:55,300 We extrapolate that. 436 00:24:56,300 --> 00:25:00,300 We're losing an area the size of Great Britain annually. 437 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:04,300 Why is an area covering only 7% of Earth's land mass so significant? 438 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:08,300 Because it contains 90% of all life forms. 439 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:17,300 By the year 2010, that's 15 years ago, we'll be responsible for the extinction of 20% of Earth species. 440 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:24,300 In 60 years, 50% of the species on Earth will be gone, irrevocably. 441 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:31,300 The Gaia theory suggests that Earth, like man, has vital organs and that the heart is the rainforest. 442 00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:35,300 If we cut down the tropical rainforest, we're not just harming the people who live close by. 443 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:40,300 It has an effect on the overall system, just as if I stuck something in your heart, 444 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:44,300 or in your brain, or in your lung, the rest of your body would react. 445 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:51,300 When I began my research on Gaia, I was skeptical and I was going to knock the stuffing out of it. 446 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:57,300 I'm from Brooklyn, I am not new age, and I figured this is one of these sort of 447 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:01,300 ujibuji kind of concoctions that is masquerading a science. 448 00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:06,300 But the more journalist Lawrence Joseph learned about Lovelock and his Gaia theory, 449 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:09,300 the more he came to accept it as prophetic. 450 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:13,300 He began to see a frightening correlation between man's encroachment on the environment 451 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:16,300 and the impending destruction of the planet. 452 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,300 We are the threat, we are the problem. 453 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:23,300 There are 5 billion of us on the planet. 454 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:30,300 There is a quarter of a trillion pounds of human flesh on this planet. 455 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,300 The world's population is expected to double within 40 years, 456 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:39,300 with twice as many cars, twice as much pollution, and double the need for natural resources. 457 00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,300 How will the earth sustain us? 458 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:47,300 Every year we consume about 40% of all the green stuff that the planet produces. 459 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:54,300 With 10 billion people, we're clearly going to be consuming almost everything that the planet produces. 460 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:59,300 We cannot live beyond our means, and we're getting perilously close to doing so. 461 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:07,300 By cutting away and disrupting the balance, you have in effect Gaia's revenge. 462 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:10,300 The ecosystem fights back and it attacks the people. 463 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:13,300 It harms them with disease and drives them out. 464 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:18,300 Ironically, it is people who may be Gaia's unwitting accomplices. 465 00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:25,300 Deadly viruses once locked deep in the rainforest are now being unleashed by our unrelenting march into remote areas. 466 00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:34,300 We are endlessly fascinated by movies that depict us being eaten by aliens and sharks of amity. 467 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:40,300 The reality is that we are eaten, and we are eaten by bacteria and viruses. 468 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:46,300 And they are the real threat. Millions of people are going to die from HIV 469 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:51,300 for every person who gets gobbled up by a great white shark, fictional or otherwise. 470 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:58,300 We're probably only just seeing the tip of the iceberg to all of the viruses that are out there, and there's probably plenty more to come. 471 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:03,300 Virologist Scott Lane is an associate professor at the UCLA School of Public Health, 472 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:07,300 where he is a leading researcher in the fight against AIDS. 473 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:12,300 There's a whole web of where infectious diseases are emerging from right now. 474 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:16,300 It's the rainforest, it's the sea, it's the land that we live on. 475 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:22,300 There are airborne viruses, and there are viruses which are sexually transmitted. 476 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:33,300 If you look at the average American, as described by the recent sex survey, they'll have five sexual partners in a lifetime. 477 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:40,300 That means they've got a one in 40 chance of encountering somebody who carries a deadly disease. 478 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:46,300 I wouldn't want to do anything that had a risk of one in 40 of killing myself. 479 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:50,300 It makes bungee jumping look incredibly safe. 480 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:55,300 One of the most gruesome killer viruses to emerge from the rainforest is Ebola. 481 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,300 Trapped for perhaps centuries in this dense protected environment, 482 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:03,300 it has not been as easy to contain the virus in laboratories and test tubes. 483 00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:10,300 Ebola virus was discovered in this country, uncontrolled, in an animal quarantine facility in Reston, Virginia. 484 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,300 If the airborne virus had spread outside the facility, 485 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:18,300 thousands, if not millions of Americans, would have died a horrible death. 486 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:24,300 When you're infected with Ebola virus, it seems to grow in all of the cells of your body. 487 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:29,300 The Ebola causes your blood to clot, and it also causes your blood to thin at the same time. 488 00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:33,300 You may start vomiting blood, you may start sneezing blood. 489 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:39,300 Blood might start breaking out of pores in your skin, and in the meantime, you bruise. 490 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:41,300 Those bruises, they break open. 491 00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:48,300 You literally turn into just a petri dish for the virus, and you die a horrible death. 492 00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:54,300 A jet plane in 24 hours is all it would take for one person with Ebola to spread the virus worldwide. 493 00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:58,300 You can be one day in Hong Kong, you can be the next day in New York City. 494 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,300 You can be one day in Australia, you can be the next day in China. 495 00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:06,300 Jetting around the world is a factor for spreading viral infection. 496 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:14,300 Is an outbreak of Ebola, or another new deadly virus, inevitable, or is there still time to prevent Gaius' revenge? 497 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:20,300 I think there's been a fundamental mistake in the approach of environmentalists, and that's the save the earth notion. 498 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:29,300 Fear, self-interest is a much greater motivator, and I think when that finally sinks in, and I believe it has begun to, 499 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:39,300 then people will see that the environment is not just another good deed, but it's necessary and beneficial for themselves. 500 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:44,300 I think it's going to be very interesting to see what path humanity decides on taking. 501 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:49,300 Are we going to be the wise stewards of our planet, or the desecraters of it? 502 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:57,300 While it is true that pollution, disease, and deforestation are on the rise, there is room for optimism. 503 00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:06,300 Global awareness of the earth's fragility is at an all-time high, and even though recycling one bottle or planting one tree may seem trivial, 504 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,300 the cumulative effect could save the earth. 505 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:14,300 Coming up, what terrorized this family in Australia's outback? 506 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:19,300 It was hot, all this junk come inside the car, and it just feel like our heads were going to explode. 507 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:28,300 More than 90% of all reported alien abductees are American. 508 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:36,300 It's a statistic that skeptics use to argue that the abduction phenomenon is simply a product of our own pop culture and pop psychology. 509 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:44,300 Abduction experts counter that the numbers are skewed because abductees in other countries don't always feel free to come forward. 510 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:51,300 That was certainly the case for an Australian family who were forced underground after their experience was ridiculed in the press. 511 00:31:53,300 --> 00:32:04,300 On the afternoon of January 20, 1988, Fay Knowles and her three sons set out from Perth in Western Australia to visit relatives several hundred miles away. 512 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:11,300 At dusk, they were crossing the Nullarver Plain, a desolate stretch of road through the Australian desert. 513 00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:19,300 It was here, as day turned to night, that the Knowles encountered something terrifying that remains unexplained to this day. 514 00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:28,300 We drove on, and this object kept me falling, and somehow, I don't know how to tell it, but it wasn't actually flying, it was just hovering. 515 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:31,300 It didn't have wings or anything like that, it was just hovering. 516 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,300 We nearly died, we thought we were dying. 517 00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:37,300 And the faster we went, the faster this object went. 518 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:42,300 The Knowles had experienced abject fear at the hands of an unnatural force. 519 00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:51,300 Police offered no explanation, and when the family turned to the media for help in finding an answer, the media turned on them. 520 00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:57,300 Would you please welcome a couple of people who've seen the light, Fay and Patrick Knowles. What was your first reaction? 521 00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:59,300 I thought we were going to die, you know. 522 00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:00,300 Did you know what it was? 523 00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:01,300 I didn't know. 524 00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:03,300 It didn't look like anything you'd ever seen before? 525 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:04,300 No, that's right. 526 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:10,300 The object picked the carer up, and mum wound in her window and put her hand out in the roof. 527 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:18,300 So you've been picked up by an alien craft, and you've wound down the window, Fay, and put your hand on the roof. 528 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,300 I was curious to see what was up there. 529 00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:29,300 So you're way off the ground, you've got the alien spacecraft picking you up, and you've virtually patted it, haven't you? 530 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:39,300 As this was going on, it was like a really loud sound on top of the inside of the carer, and it was like a material. 531 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:43,300 It was like a fog that was coming into the carer, and when the material had come into it... 532 00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,300 It was your mum's skin burning. 533 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:47,300 And... 534 00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:54,300 The media treating the Knolls family was ruthless. 535 00:33:54,300 --> 00:34:07,300 I don't think one person, honestly, asked sensible questions and tried to console these people in there, and seeing the state of anxiety that they were in. 536 00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:11,300 People would say, you know, you saw things, you're making it up, it's... 537 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:12,300 That's not true. 538 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:22,300 A lot of the interviewers I find and have found make a bit of a joke of it and don't really approach it seriously. 539 00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:26,300 Some staining due to soot from outer space, others staining due to terrified passengers. 540 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:34,300 The impression I got on the Knolls case that it was a serious and definite event that happened, experience that they had. 541 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:46,300 Here, for the first time outside of Australia, and without reprisal or ridiculed, is the story of what happened on that January night in 1988, as told by the Knolls in their own words. 542 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:55,300 I was next to Sean, he was sitting in front, driving, and I was asleep in the passenger side, and Sean goes, Pat, wake up, look at this. 543 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:59,300 And he goes, and I go to him, what's the matter? He goes, it looks like a UFO, and I said, can't you... 544 00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:03,300 We drove up to it and approached it, and this thing was... 545 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:09,300 At first it was just stopped in the road, and we approached it. 546 00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:12,300 Yeah, it was more like an egg shape. 547 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:17,300 And it had like a yellow center. 548 00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:24,300 Next to me, you know, this object appeared back behind us, and I said, Sean, come put your foot down, let's get going. 549 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:30,300 And that's when I decided to put my foot down, and it just caught up within a matter of seconds. 550 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:38,300 As sparks hit the back tire like something was trying to blow out the tire like the object behind us, it blew the tire out with like a beam of light. 551 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:42,300 Before we knew it, she just went clunk on the roof of the car. 552 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:46,300 It jumped on the roof of the car and took us up near, like that. 553 00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:52,300 And as it picked the car up the car, it lit up like a microwave, lit up really bright inside. 554 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:56,300 We heard this great big enormous sound like a motor or something, and I don't know what... 555 00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:00,300 It really had to describe like it made us feel like our heads were going to explode. 556 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:04,300 Yeah, we're frightened, and... 557 00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:06,300 Like our brains been sucked out. 558 00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:13,300 Yeah, it was hot, all this junk come inside the car and, you know... 559 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:19,300 And at that time, it was hard to explain because I kind of barbed blank down. 560 00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:24,300 As the car was dropping fully, this object slipped off the car. 561 00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:35,300 Not long after, you know, it dropped the car. That's when I come out of it, and I took off from the car, I told them all to jump out. 562 00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:39,300 We jumped at the car, ran out to bushes, heading to bushes. 563 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,300 And you could see the sting, it was still looking for us. 564 00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:50,300 And at the same time, I turned the lights off in the car, and somehow it could not focus on that car. 565 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:54,300 Somehow it was working with our lights. 566 00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:58,300 As soon as I turned those lights off, it just could not find us. 567 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:07,300 According to the Knowles family, it was at this point that they experienced what ufologists referred to as missing time. 568 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:11,300 I think we lost about an hour and a half in time. 569 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:18,300 And it's really hard to explain, you know, how long it did take. 570 00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:27,300 Local police investigated the incident and found several eyewitnesses who corroborated the strange events on the Nullarbor Plain that night. 571 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,300 They were travelling along the road. A bright light appeared in front of the car. 572 00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:34,300 Shortly after, the light disappeared behind the car. 573 00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:40,300 The car was picked up, on the road, shaken violently. The car was covered in ash. 574 00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:42,300 Black ash. 575 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:44,300 What about the people? Were they harmed at all? 576 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,300 Weren't harmed, but visibly shaken up. 577 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:55,300 Many people witnessed the Knowles event and they were from all professions and walks of life. 578 00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:58,300 And they were travelling in different vehicles. 579 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:04,300 So we had people in spotter planes for the tuna boat people. 580 00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:10,300 We had the tuna boat people experiencing the UFO light above them. 581 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:16,300 Police investigators and scientists examined the car and analysed the sooty residue found inside. 582 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:27,300 Although their findings were inconclusive, most of the investigators insisted the damage to the vehicle and the tires was caused by some unexplained but natural causes. 583 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:41,300 A lot of the powers that be put it down to the rising sun or Jupiter or these other things which they think ordinary people mistake these things for. 584 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:47,300 But it's their way of getting around it and not having to do anything about it, I think. 585 00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:53,300 We just want people to know what happened to us now. We weren't after anything, you know. 586 00:38:53,300 --> 00:39:02,300 We thought it was amazing ourselves. We thought we'd like people to know what happened because it was exciting plus very frightening. 587 00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:12,300 You can't really explain what it's like unless it's actually happened to you like people say, you know, people used to laugh before they made a joke, but now they don't. 588 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:20,300 Since the Knowles experience in 1988 there have been many anonymous reports of mysterious lights hovering over the Knowles Arbor plane. 589 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:27,300 But so far no one since the Knowles family has been willing to come forward and tell their story publicly. 590 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:32,300 Coming up, while sightings is online with viewers, a violent spirit makes its presence known. 591 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:37,300 In the last five minutes, three scratches appeared on his body. 592 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:46,300 We now return to the House in America's heartland which has been the focus of an intensive sightings investigation. 593 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:52,300 This time, many of you came with us through a live computer forum set up with America Online. 594 00:39:52,300 --> 00:40:00,300 In the world's first online ghost investigation, hundreds of sightings viewers were able to experience the haunting firsthand. 595 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:09,300 She was clearly dressed in garb that would be worn by a child at the turn of the century. 596 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:22,300 As Peter James concluded his psychic investigation, the team moved downstairs where sightings co-executive producer Stephen Kruppnick was leading a computer forum between sightings viewers and the investigative team. 597 00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:33,300 Through a live nationwide hookup, viewers could ask questions, make comments about their own beliefs and experience the haunting firsthand through the information superhighway. 598 00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:37,300 Here, computer users posed questions directly to Peter James. 599 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:42,300 I'd like to know if there's any way to learn how to talk to or contact a ghost. 600 00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:55,300 It takes a lot of trial and error and a lot of nurturing and a lot of just being persistent. 601 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,300 All the things must come to an end. Time is up for this event. 602 00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:59,300 Great. 603 00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,300 Hi. 604 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:01,300 Okay, great. 605 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:02,300 Thank you. 606 00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:03,300 You're good. 607 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:04,300 Great. 608 00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:09,300 The next day, sightings was online with paranormal investigator Kerry Gaynor. 609 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:16,300 Again, through a computer forum on America Online, viewers were speaking live with Gaynor and the rest of the team. 610 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:21,300 During this computer session, the former residents of the house paid an unexpected visit. 611 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:30,300 Within minutes, Sally's telltale calling card was visible and our online audience was experiencing it with the rest of the team. 612 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:34,300 So, did you feel it here or down here? Where did you feel it? 613 00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:38,300 Kind of like all across here. 614 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:39,300 Oh, the whole face? 615 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:40,300 Yeah. 616 00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:44,300 The first reaction from the online audience was skeptical. 617 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,300 How do we know this is not a hoax? 618 00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,300 Well, I don't know. What do you answer that? 619 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,300 We got 15 people observing us right now. 620 00:41:55,300 --> 00:42:05,300 In the last five minutes, three scratches appeared on his body in full view of eight witnesses. 621 00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:14,300 But those three scratches were not the last. Just minutes after sightings concluded the computer forum, Sally struck again. 622 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:18,300 And this time, with a viciousness, our team had not seen before. 623 00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:26,300 All of a sudden, his knees buckled and he just kind of let out an, oh, and clearly something happened. 624 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:33,300 We went up, lifted up his shirt and there were two vicious scratch marks across his back. 625 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,300 It really looked like an attack. 626 00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,300 You okay? Still hurt? 627 00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:39,300 He's needsy. 628 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:45,300 Up to this point, the family has asked us to keep their identities and their town secret. 629 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:51,300 But in our next report from America's Heartland, sightings will bring you both carry gainers, complete investigation, 630 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,300 and the true identity of the scratching victim we now call Jeff. 631 00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:22,300 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. 632 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:25,300 For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 633 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:48,300 It's like it's got a mind of its own. It makes me do things I don't want it to do. 634 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:50,300 That's disgusting. 635 00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:52,300 I cut up my head and it's going to kill you all. 636 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,300 I can't watch.